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While top representatives from each country...
were convening at the UN to discuss global peace-keeping and security,
despite the lack of any official recognition,
the self-appointed G's from around the world...
are convening for the peace-keeping and security of global youths,
hence the Non-Summit Meeting.
We shall begin the session.
(We shall begin the session.)
I'm the Chairman of Non Summit Meeting, Jun Hyun-moo.
- I'm Secretary General Yoo Se-yoon. - I'm Chairman Sung Si-kyung.
- We are Junyoosung! - We are Junyoosung!
(Welcome representatives.)
Yesterday was Hangul Proclamation Day.
Hangul Proclamation Day may mean more to the guys here who struggle with Korean.
What do you find most difficult about Korean?
I'm curious.
In Korean, one word may carry multiple meanings...
and that word with multiple meanings is...
(Is he acting out a skit? These things are why Korean's difficult.)
There're many words that share one meaning, and there're words with many meanings.
For instance, there's a subtle difference between a map and a rough draft.
A few years ago, a guy asked me to send him a rough draft,
but I asked, "Are you sick?"
Because of the letter "yak" in the word?
He just wanted some directions.
But I did not know it at the time.
We don't have a lot of intonations in our language.
If they ask for a rough draft, we may as well send them rice, water and drugs.
You misunderstood.
When I came to Korea for the first time, many people asked,
"How did you come to Korea?"
My Korean wasn't great at the time, so I said,
"Swiss is far from Korea so obviously I took a long flight."
It can mean a method of transportation or a reason for coming.
One day, I ordered food at the restaurant and said,
"May I have a soybean paste stew?"
The server told me "I'm sorry we're out of soybean stew."
I went, "Dropped? Where?"
"Out of" in Korean can mean a drop.
They were out of soybean stew.
All the soybean paste stew at the restaurant got dropped to the floor.
Great imagination.
You know, Koreans make that "Keeah" sound when drinking alcohol.
They say "Bbak" when smashing something.
- They also say "Hwak" when they're angry. - You're old.
People make such sounds when acting a certain way.
You can't even look them up in the dictionary.
- He's right. - I couldn't find those words.
How would you find out what they mean as foreigners?
Don't you have those words in Mexico as well?
You have interjections and expressions that do not have a meaning.
They exist, but we don't say them out loud knowingly.
- So... - How do you say words like...
"Bak"and "Hwak" in Mexican?
You can say something like "Yai yai yai."
(Yai yai yai.)
- That's funny. - "Yai yai yai."
People say, "Yai yai yai."
When we meet people, we say, "Aigo, long time no see!"
How can you teach such interjections?
I feel every country would have something similar.
Don't you go "keeah" after taking a shot of tequila?
No, I don't.
- "Yai yai yai." - We say, "Yai yai yai."
- That sounds like you're in pain. - Oogi, what's difficult about Korean?
For me, pronunciation was the hardest part.
In Japanese, we don't have a distinction between "Oh" and "Uh".
You're doing well now.
Oh, really?
So when I started learning the language,
"Oh-jing-uh" meaning squid sounded like such high-end vocabulary.
"Oh-jing-uh" was that word for you.
I practiced saying it a lot. When I came to Korea,
I went to watch a movie and found squid.
I thought, "I've got to buy this."
I walked up to the counter and said in a low-tone voice, "Oh-jing-uh please."
- "Oh-jing-uh please." - He was proud he got that right.
- Yes. - Did you call squid "Uh-jing-uh" in the past?
I called it "Oh-jing-oh".
- Oh-jing-oh? - Even now it's so hard to make out the differences.
I had such a hard time with the word, too.
- Really? - When ordering beef, I'd sometimes go "Suh-go-gi"...
or "So-gu-gi".
- I get them mixed up sometimes. - If you say "So-gu-gi", it sounds a bit weird.
"So-gu-gi" may indicate that special part below.
It can sound a little erotic.
Americans have trouble with the double consonant sounds.
- I really couldn't say it right. - Jajangmyeon.
I mean examples like "cheap", "right" or "fast".
During class, I'd repeat after my teachers...
and say the lines and they would sound...
exactly the same to me.
In the end, we'd just cheat and say the line a little louder.
I'd say the word louder.
They gave me compliments.
- You were good. - "Hey you got this right this time."
That's when they credit you for the right sound.
And there's one thing I found out very recently.
I had no clue about this then.
The Korean word for "snow" and "eyes" is the same but has different vowel sounds.
- Yes, it's different. - I didn't know.
The word "snow" has a longer vowel.
It's snowing.
- Really? - Many people don't know about this.
- I didn't know. - He's a former anchor.
It's "nun" and "nu-un".
- It's... - I didn't know.
- Did you know? - No, I did not.
We don't say it like that ourselves.
We don't prolong the vowel sound in "nun" on purpose.
(No one says it like that.)
I find the grammar very challenging, too.
My wife's a Korean teacher.
So I'd sometimes ask, "What's the difference?"
- She just tells me to memorize them all. - The word selection...
- and vocabulary we use on the show... - It's hard.
tend to be on the high-end and not a simple "Is that tasty?"
It's an incredible feat for you to digest all the material.
As we wrap up this segment, I'd like to reiterate that you are amazing.
Let's begin the Non Summit Meeting, a show without borders.
We now begin the main part of the show.
This is the time we gather issues the panel wants to discuss around the world...
and hear diverse opinions on the matter.
The issues around the world serve as side dishes.
It's "What Is So Important?
(Global Side Dishes, "What Is So Important?")
Let's hear the issue from the Italian representative.
Donations are pouring in..
for the earthquake victims in Italy.
But it's become a hot debate when some celebrities and politicians seem to...
have exploited this tragedy for personal gains.
It has become a controversial topic.
I picked this item to get your take on the donations for personal gains.
The campaign donating proceeds from pasta sales became viral.
That's right. One of the Italian towns completely collapsed.
The name of that town is Amatrice.
Amatrice is where the spaghetti we know and love came from.
So the campaign was set up...
- to donate a portion of pasta sales. - From around the world?
They did the campaign also in the affected area.
That's not an issue, but some celebrities are openly...
disclosing the amount of donations in public.
There's a well-known Italian celebrity.
His name is Fiorello.
He said, "Normally it's fine..."
"but in times like this,"
"it's not morally right to release the numbers."
He said it's a show business to get your names out there.
- It's all promotion. - It's manufacturing an image for yourself.
The comment ignited fire for a huge controversy.
Many celebrities and politicians commented on the matter.
There's been a similar issue in Japan as well.
During the Kumamoto earthquake, a Japanese model named Taiko posted...
her donation receipt on social media.
She posted the whole transfer receipt online.
- Why did she go that far? - You're saying you're doing good deeds...
- I see. - on the internet.
It's so pretentious that way.
People have respect for those who give away money for a good cause,
but the question is why tell the whole world about it?
- We feel bad about it because it's all for a good cause. - Right.
Such actions are regretful.
Let's hear your opinions regarding open donations.
Donation was set up to help those in need.
Should we have open donations and disclose all?
Should it be low-profile? Please press the button.
One, two, three. Press the button.
Niklas, Zahid, Wang Xinlin...
And the rest believe it should be open.
(Seven are in agreement with the open donation and four oppose it.)
I think the openness should depend on the purpose of the donations.
That should dictate whether I should go public with it or stay silent.
- Depends on the intention? - Yes, that's how it should be decided.
If I want to donate simply as a member of the society,
do I really need to let people know?
- Then what donations must be revealed to the public? - Well...
If you want to create a positive image for yourself...
I personally like to donate quietly,
- but it's okay to reveal some. - Hold on.
Did you just say you personally like to donate quietly?
Mark, you've improved quite a bit.
- That's... - Mark, you let everyone know about your donations.
Aren't you being loud about letting us know?
- Do you not know you're on TV? - I totally got caught.
Can't you see the cameras?
Allow me to explain.
You're helping spread the issue and inform the public.
As they see you make a donation,
- you may influence others to do the same. - So there's a positive effect.
- You can encourage people. - It can have an influence for sure,
but it may not be a positive influence.
Using donations, politicians can get political gains before the election.
So they give away a lot of money to create a positive image.
Donations may be great for those who are in need,
but donations with certain motives take away from what donation stands for.
- So it's... - Donation shouldn't be about bragging.
- It's not about what a great job you've done. - Of course.
I look at its intention and effectiveness separately.
People may donate with different intentions in mind.
Some may have good ones, but some may not.
At the end of the day, they benefit the people in need regardless.
I understood very well the point Niklas was trying to make.
I can relate a little to his idea.
The person could be using the method of donations...
to shed his negative image in public.
It's like he's using the victims as a tool to boost his image.
So if I were one of the victims,
- I would not accept such money. - You wouldn't.
- I don't need that money. - It may be done with bad intentions,
but it does benefit people anyway.
It helps the victims more than sitting here,
pointing fingers and judging people who donate.
People who are talking and judging are helping absolutely no one.
Taking it one step further, you can brag about the fact that you donated.
- There's nothing bad about that. - It'd still help other people.
With common sense in mind,
you can let others know about your donations.
Like Mark said, it can help craft a positive image and such.
But in the case of a tragedy with a large number of victims,
by letting the public know,
you're using the victims as a tool for your gain.
But who are victimized here as a result of open donations?
Why do you say there'd be no victims?
Let's say I'm poor, in dire need of money.
Let's say I receive assistance money.
The donor forces me to take a photo with me.
He's basically using my poverty for his image.
He posts the photo up on social media. Then I'm a victim.
This guy knows politics in Korea.
(He is very flattered.)
Everyone would know that I'm poor.
In that case, I'm a victim.
They just grab you without consent and take photos.
Hey, put on a smile.
Hey, shake hands with the state representative.
Let's take a picture.
All done.
(As they get the photo they want, they leave.)
There was another donation method that was controversial.
If the singers would like to donate,
why do they need so-called charity concerts?
Why don't they just donate themselves?
I understand where they're coming from.
I donate to this place. I mean, I usually do it very quietly.
Can we not hear about that?
- Can you please stop? - Would you like to be the Angel of Donation"?
I've been sending money to this elderly care center...
with my friends.
The reason why I'm throwing a party and having many people over is...
that I'd like to create a culture where they're more inclined to donate.
- Right. - Why I feel that's the right way to go is...
that there were charity concerts being held...
when there was a big earthquake.
It makes the fans of the bands go,
"Perhaps I should donate, too."
- It helps them get familiar with the donation. - That's right.
But in Japan,
they say there're donations only in times of natural disasters,
- and normally there aren't many in Japan. - That's true.
According to the worldwide donation ranking statistics,
out of 145 countries, Japan ranks 102th.
By the way, China ranks 144th.
You didn't have to mention China.
(Japan ranks 102th and China, 144th.)
(A jab out of nowhere)
So I believe we need to create that atmosphere to raise more donation awareness.
Negative stigma attached to donations also exists in Korea.
Some believe donations are used to avoid inheritance tax...
and accumulate even more wealth.
Any other controversies surrounding donations done with the wrong motives?
- In China, false donation claims have been an issue. - What?
- Donations were fraudulent. - The donation was fake.
A very famous actress from China, Zhang Ziyi made a promise...
to donate 140,000 dollars to Chinese Red Cross...
for the victims of Sichuan earthquake in 2008,
but she only donated 120,000 dollars.
She didn't make the rest of the payment.
In this case, she made a promise that turned out to be a lie.
As the public found out about the lie,
she became the most hated figure in China.
She took a long hiatus as a result.
So she did donate some money.
But she used her celebrity status...
to raise money at Cannes Festival.
She pleaded for support and donations at the festival.
- Many donations have been made, but she did not donate the money. - What?
No one knows where that money went.
-That's a serious problem. - It was half a million dollars.
Now that we're on the topic of dissing celebrities, let me talk about Johnny Depp.
When Johnny Depp divorced Amber Heard,
she asked for seven million dollars as a settlement.
- She announced she was going to donate all of the money. - I read the article.
You read it, right? When he found out about the news,
he made the donation himself.
- And that upset Amber Heard. - Why?
Because he can claim it on his own taxes as donations.
She told him to make twice the donation.
She's saying if you really do want to donate, donate another seven million dollars.
The US laws are complex.
You can claim the donations up to 50 percent against...
your income taxes.
The US is known for having a great donation system set up.
You do get certain tax benefits from...
making donations.
I think that is a great policy to have...
because the 2 percent of the US GDP...
comes from donations.
And 70 percent of the donation come from individual donations.
What stirred up the controversy was when the donor asked for the money back.
Some want all their money back.
- Give it back? - Give it back.
- Give it back? - Normally,
when you donate the money to the charity,
you entrust the organization to utilize it the right way.
Nowadays, they're required to report and disclose every transactions.
If the charity doesn't use the money the way the donor intended for,
- They can retrieve? - the donor has the right to retrieve the money.
When I was young, I'd donated to a heart disease charity.
My heart had a hole when I was born...
so a heart surgery was needed when I was six.
So I made an effort to donate...
to heart charities on a regular basis.
About the circumstances you've described,
as Mark suggested, I'm looking for ways to help the heart patients myself...
and not so much trust the charities and their usage of my money.
I want full disclosure,
- I see. - and I'd like to help them myself.
There're some people around us who donate a significantly large sum of money.
A community called "Honor Society" exists for donors above 100,000 dollars.
Who are some of the big-time donors in different countries?
In our country, there's a huge donor named Yu Pengnian.
He's one of the biggest donors.
He's one of the top 14 donors in the world.
He's given away all his money and asset in his lifetime...
and left zero inheritance for his children.
In his lifetime, he's donated a total of about 1.8 billion dollars.
- He donated 1.8 billion dollars, and he gave his children nothing. - Not a cent.
The son of Yu Pengnian must be...
the most disheartened son in the world.
But he's highly respected by others.
Soccer player Francesco Totti is known as a generous donor in Italy.
- Totti? - His play style on the field is rough though.
His on-field image may suggest otherwise,
but he's donated a lot of money,
and he especially chose donation routes that didn't grant him tax exemption.
For instance, Totti recently...
gave away his portrait rights for free...
to transportation companies in Rome.
They'd held many promotions using his image,
and all the proceeds went to UNICEF.
He organized friendly or charity matches...
with his national team members...
- and donated all profits from the event. - He's a nice person.
I think Bill Gates and Warren Buffett from the US must be in this discussion.
They've made a pact...
that they are going to donate half of their net worth.
And they literally have hundreds of billions.
Bill Gates alone has over 90 billion dollars.
Right. They call it a "Billionaire pledge"...
or a "Giving pledge." It's a pledge to donate...
over half their net worth among billionaires.
- It's a pledge group. - Yes.
Now the group has reached 150 members.
The total promised donation amount is over 400 billion dollars.
I've never been well-off in my life.
I can't relate to billionaires donating...
a huge sum of money. I don't really get it.
Back when I was in China,
I've taught Chinese to Korean language students for free.
I've also bought food for them.
- So you can donate things like knowledge. - I bet it was a female student.
How did you know?
- I knew of such exchange programs. - Well done.
- It was nice of you to share. - Yes.
If you teach for free,
I'd be unemployed.
- Why is that? - Because...
I make my living doing this. Don't teach for free.
- You're really worried about that? - I'm worried about my Chinese co-workers.
Do not give free language lessons.
- But maybe for people in need. - It sounds like something you really wanted to say.
(His career is threatened.)
But many have this belief that...
they'll donate when they've got money and make it like Bill gates...
and put the idea of donation on the back burner.
But that day may never come. You never know.
Who's really going to make 90 billion dollars?
I think we can all start with small donations...
and go from there. I think it'd be more meaningful.
Donations aren't about numbers or quantity.
It is the kind thought that counts.
Thanks to our family, we've been sponsoring an Indian girl for 20 years.
You can call it a long-distance adoption.
- I've got a sister in India. - Really?
- Is that so? - Yes.
We sent money for school and living expenses.
What's heart-warming about this is that you get a letter.
You get updates on her school and life progress.
She's doing really well in school. We get her report cards, too.
I had another touching moment recently.
She told us now that she's over 20.
She said she doesn't need the money any more.
- She wants us to use that money towards other kids. - Goodness.
(Wow)
Give it up for his family.
What a great deed they've done.
(A small good action led to something bigger.)
I'm going to India so if you got something to send to your sister, give it to me.
(Okay, I got it.)
We're hoping the donation culture stays away from tax exemption...
and becomes more positive.
(After filming, the representatives also started a small donation program.)
(A small movement will bring about a big miracle.)
Let's hear from the US representative on the today's issue.
Tesla from the US has announced its plans to send...
human civilization to Mars by 2022.
There's a high risk of death on the first flight...
so the participants must be willing to risk death.
I would like to know what you guys think on this item.
- Okay. - My goodness.
- Se-yoon, doesn't this interest you a little? - Yes.
- Really? - Isn't it great to be the first one to go?
It's all in the movie "The Martian".
Do they die in the movie?
- Have a nice trip. - You can go first.
This is coming from Elon Musk who had a huge influence...
on the role of Robert Downey Jr. in the movie "Iron Man".
Elon Musk announced his plans for a habitable city on Mars in 2022.
Making it back successfully isn't guaranteed,
so you must risk death for this journey.
So you must be ready to die.
The trip to Mars is scarier than the trip to Busan city.
I'd like to know what the panel thinks.
Will you put your life on the line like Se-yoon...
and risk it all for the good of humanity?
Or will you not apply?
Let's see. One, two, three. Press the button.
Alex, Zahid and Aurélien like the idea.
(Three agree while eight are opposed to the idea.)
So they are not afraid of death, are they?
- Aurélien, will you go? - Yes, I will.
Let's go on an overnight trip to Mars.
- But you don't like traveling with others. - Traveling?
One, two, three. It's okay up to three people.
Why do you want to go to Mars?
To be honest, I'm personally interested in the trip,
rather than for the development of mankind.
I'd like to have such once-in-a-lifetime experience.
- You have to risk your life for that. - What if you lose your life?
But on the Earth,
there's no more place to explore.
I want to take a real adventure there.
- You might die during the take-off. - I know.
However, it can happen anytime while you live.
- It's going to be cool though. - But the chances to lose life is much higher.
It doesn't matter. I'm already 36 years old.
I have lived enough.
The average life expectancy today is about 100 years.
- But I think... - He just thought it would be fun.
Wherever you go on the Earth,
it'll be a lot more comfortable than Mars.
Even life on North Pole will be a lot easier than that on Mars.
You may develop cancer due to high level of electromagnetic waves.
You will lose most of your muscles and bone mass because of lower gravity.
You can't breathe, either.
Since you can't breathe there, you should live in an underground shelter.
Moreover, during your travel to Mars,
you have to stay with 100 people in a cramped spacecraft.
- How long does it take to get there? - At least 80 days.
You can't come back once you get there.
To come back, you have to wait two and a half years, which is 26 months.
If you don't like the other passengers,
- what are you going to do? - Good point.
You will go insane.
- Let's vote again. - No way.
- Se-yoon, will you go? - No, I won't.
- Se-yoon won't go. - Thinking again,
I'm worried that I wouldn't like the 100 passengers.
- Right. - What if I become an outcast?
I know it all too well.
It's not for fun, but it's for the development of mankind.
- Right. - For the development of mankind.
We humans can't live on Earth forever.
I have no seats to go to Mars.
- I'm not that brave. - You mean you don't have enough courage?
Space travel is something for great minds.
I'm an only child. I still have many things to do.
All my family members have great expectations for me.
Being an only child sounds quite lonely, right?
- It's sad. - It's a bit sad.
I shouldn't die for the sake of my family.
But think about it.
- Your parents will be really proud of you. - No.
Putting much value on my own life...
is one way of being a good son to my parents.
If I risk my life for a wonderful experience, my parents would feel hurt.
Alex said he would go for the development of science.
People like Aurélien, who just want to have fun, should not go to Mars.
He can't contribute to scientific development.
- It shouldn't be for fun. - So you are saying people like him shouldn't go.
- Yes. - I have something to tell to Guillaume.
It's a story of Christopher Columbus.
Before he found the Americas, he could've died,
but he continued and found the new continent.
When he went there,
he didn't know what the place would be like and whether he could come back.
The likelihood was at least 50 percent. There were chances that he'd love the place.
Think about Mars.
We have seen so many pictures of the place, and I agree with Guillaume.
The travel is so risky and dangerous that I might lose my life during the travel.
Compared to the risks, what can I get from it? Beautiful beach?
- Wonderful sea? - It's a challenge.
You love challenges, don't you?
- But... - What if the Martians have these big ears?
I'd be love to go there if the place is great,
but the risks to get there are so high, enough to threaten your life.
- Moreover, it's so tough. - But the situation is a bit different here.
The difference is...
he said his cause is for the sake of the whole mankind.
If we can make great contributions for the mankind...
through the travel to Mars,
I can go, too.
But this has never happened before.
The company itself might be a big fraud scheme.
- Wait. - Are you serious?
Because it's the first of its kind, they might just get...
- the money from 100 people. - What's so funny here is...
some asked the president of the company if he wants to go, and he said no.
He said it's because investors of his company...
would not want the CEO to lose his own life.
He said, "That's why I can't go."
- It's a good excuse. - But he's not a swindler.
Elon Musk also serves as the CEO of Tesla.
He's a very reliable person.
- Personally, I do trust him. - I do, too.
If Elon Musk...
says there are potentials for the development of...
mankind, I would definitely go.
In short, Zahid and Alex want to contribute to...
the development of the world, right?
But you can make such contributions on Earth, too.
- However, humans can't live on Earth forever. - Right.
But I don't think Alex and Zahid...
are qualified enough to go to Mars.
- Why? - Are you ignoring them?
- Why? - What's the reason?
- Wait, I'm not done yet. - You're looking down on them.
I think those who have been preparing for the travel...
for a long period of time,
who are really willing to risk their lives...
should go to Mars for the development.
For them, it's like "Will you go?"
"Sure, I can contribute to the development of mankind." It shouldn't be like that.
I think he's right.
It is expected that about 100 people will be able to ride on the spacecraft to Mars.
The question is "Who should get on the spacecraft first?"
Among them is Aurélien.
(Laughing)
- Also Zahid wants to go. - Yes.
- I think the priority should be on scientists and engineers. - Right.
- Because we have no idea of what it would be like there. - True.
There must be a lot of things to do.
One thing I'd like to tell Niklas is...
the travel is scheduled in 2022.
- Until then, Alex and Aurélien have enough time to prepare themselves. - No way.
- Yes. - They can learn necessary skills.
Actually, I'm already prepared for it.
- Because... - What?
I worked for a solar energy company for four years.
Everything has to be operated with solar energy in Mars.
- You'd need energy there. - Are you planning for a new business?
If I go to Mars...
- Doing business with Martians? - No.
I'd like to emphasize that we need to send engineers.
Also, people who want to make meaningful contributions for the mankind should go.
Then it should be Zahid.
Hearing his opinion,
I thought it might be great to send engineers and researchers first,
but I believe good-natured and nice people should go to Mars.
- As I mentioned earlier, - Even if they know nothing about science?
the spacecraft will be really small.
We need to prevent any conflict among the people.
Before sending scientists,
we need to conduct some mental tests on them.
Because it must be really difficult to live in Mars.
I'd like to say only those who were allowed to go...
by all their friends and relatives should go.
Only those who were allowed to do so should go on a space trip.
Only when his relatives allow him to go,
he will be able to go on a trip.
- From relatives, too? - Sure.
- What about distant relatives? - Excuse me, how old are you?
- That's not... - Wang Xinlin...
It's not related to my age.
He's not going to Seoul. It's a travel to Mars.
Getting approval from your parents makes sense.
It's not only about your parents. You should get approval of your friends as well.
It'd be interesting if we send nonchalant people.
- What's so special with life? - You'd be so good at it.
- Who's going to go out first? I'll go. - I don't mind losing my life.
My goodness.
(Oh my.)
Goodbye.
(He disappears somewhere in the space.)
What do you know about the space industry in your country?
- The US has NASA. - Yes, NASA.
Yes, it's the most representative space agency in the world.
Recently, Breakthrough Prize Foundation was founded.
Celebrities like Mark Zuckerberg...
and Steven Hawking participate in the foundation.
The foundation made "Starshot Prize".
That project goes beyond Mars...
and aims to develop technology to move away from the solar system.
Using laser technology,
they reached an amazing speed almost close to the speed of light.
It would take about 10,000 years for the travel,
but the new technology reduces...
- the travel time to less than 30 years. - I see.
- China is one of the major space powers, right? - Yes. China ranks...
among the top three space powers,
which are the US, Russia, and China.
Only the three countries have technologies to...
operate and send manned spacecrafts to the space.
Also, we have an unmanned lunar rover named "Yutu".
Yutu set the record for the longest operational period on the Moon.
It's so cute that "Yutu" means jade rabbit in Chinese.
- The robot... - Yes, it means jade rabbit.
Do Chinese believe there's a rabbit on the Moon?
- Yes, we do. - Really?
- We believe they make rice cakes up there. - Oh.
We have ISRO in India.
It's Indian Space Research Organization.
India became the first Asian country to successfully reach the Mars orbit.
What's interesting here is...
the costs for the Mars exploration project was about 76.8 million dollars,
which is even lower than the cost spent for production of the movie "Gravity".
We took a huge pride in that.
- You spent less than the movie production cost. - Oh my.
When the project succeeded in 2014, the Prime Minister of India said...
"Our Mars mission cost..."
"less than the Hollywood film Gravity."
As Switzerland is such a small country,
we don't have that massive space industry like NASA.
But we have a variety of space-related technologies.
The most famous made-in-Switzerland product that was used in the space is...
the watch worn on the Moon.
- The watch worn on the Moon? - Yes.
It's Omega's Speedmaster watch.
The second person to walk on the Moon, Buzz Aldrin wore the watch.
He walked on the Moon with that watch on his wrist.
- Most European countries are members of ESA, the European Space Agency. - Right.
Mostly, the membership countries are EU members.
- Switzerland joined the agency, too. - Yes.
Though we're not an EU member, we participate in the agency.
With such broad and solid membership,
ESA is considered as one of the biggest aerospace companies that develop satellites.
The rocket launch site for European countries is located in France.
- Right. - Guiana Space Center.
All right, I see.
- That's right. - All right.
Germany is the biggest investor in the agency.
He wants to brag, too.
The year 2022...
seemed such a distant future in the old SF movies.
- But it's actually only six years away. - It's not that far.
- It's coming up. - It's kind of scary.
Life in the space which you've only dreamed of...
is becoming a reality.
We will look forward to developments in space industry.
We will be back with "What Is So Important?" next week.
Let's invite today's guest. Who is this person?
Today's guest is...
busy acting, directing,
and being the movie festival supervisor.
He conquered Yeouido, Chungmuro, and Daehangno.
He's the man who works hard 365 days of the year.
- It's Actor Cho Jae-hyun. - Cho Jae-hyun!
(The 119th Korean representative is Cho Jae-hyun.)
Welcome.
Hello.
(Cho Jae-hyun, Korean actor and movie director)
I think we should sit down.
- They're so tall. - All right.
(They sit down quickly for the guest.)
- You need to introduce yourself in this program. - Yes.
- Tell us what you do. - Please introduce yourself.
I'm an actor and today's Korean representative, Cho Jae-hyun.
- Nice to meet you. - Nice to meet you.
There are people who know him. What did you watch?
I'm your big fan. It's an honor to meet you.
I watched "Bad Guy".
"Bad Guy" had such a big influence in India.
A movie's poster was made to be identical to the one from "Bad Guy".
("Bad Guy" and the Indian movie)
The movie was like "A Bittersweet Life", but the poster was from "Bad Guy".
("A Bittersweet Life" and "Bad Guy")
I know you for the same reason.
You're popular in Italy, too.
A number of his movies were played in Italy. They were popular.
- I see. - Director Kim Ki-duk is very popular in Italy.
- In France, too. - He's a global star.
Did you watch this program?
- I watched it often. - Really?
These people talk so well.
I thought they were following a script.
While I was waiting outside, I noticed they just talk away.
We want them to stop, but...
We really wish they will follow the script.
They say too many things that aren't on the script.
They just talk away randomly.
I was surprised.
It's a good thing.
You direct movies and dramas,
but I heard you are going to be in an unconventional play.
Yes, it's a play named "Blackbird".
A man in his mid-40s...
and a girl in her early teens...
were caught while escaping abroad.
So the man was sent to jail. A writer wrote a story...
- based on this news. - By his imagination?
It was very sensational.
It sounds interesting.
I really want to go.
If you can give me a ticket today...
- You can buy the ticket. - You want a ticket?
I thought people don't give out invitation tickets now.
Invitation tickets are long gone.
Is that so?
We were familiar with it.
Even in Daehangno,
the actors' acquaintances receive actors' discounts.
It's become normal for people to pay for the tickets, even at discounted prices.
- I think that's good. - I think that's good, too.
We will begin the 119th Non Summit Meeting.
Let's hear Cho Jae-hyun's issue.
I act and direct movies,
but I also produce plays as well as acting in them.
I was a bit upset about something.
Compared to movies or television shows,
I find it more difficult to approach plays.
I felt sorry for that.
In short,
"People watch lots of television shows or movies,"
"but they don't watch plays often, which makes me sad."
"Am I abnormal?"
Is it the same in other countries?
Plays are more difficult...
while movies and dramas are easier to approach.
In France, people think plays are scary.
- Scary? - Yes, plays...
have a luxurious image.
Ordinary people find it a bit scary...
to go to theaters.
- Why? - I can understand that.
If a person next to me understands...
- but I don't, I'd be so ignorant. - You're worried that you won't understand.
What is there to not understand in a play?
- You just watch and feel. - Let's say I watched it...
and the person next to me says, "It's so touching."
- That's... - That's a bias.
I think that's a prejudice.
You don't look so good.
Aurélien,
- where are you from? - I'm from Lille. It's in the North.
- Lille? - Lille.
That's a countryside, right?
(That's a countryside, right?)
How can you say that?
He meant a rural area.
I don't think you know much about plays.
No, no.
- He found out. - No.
There was a survey.
In a survey in France,
Over 40 percent of people who are 6 years old or older...
haven't watched professional plays.
- People often watch movies, but... - Is that counting everyone in France?
- Or just your hometown? - No.
You have a target.
- The entire population. - Amongst French people,
there are people called "Bobo".
It's combination of Bourgeois and bohemien.
It refers to rich people who are left-wing...
and who are interested in culture.
Those people watch plays a lot.
It's different in the US. Some think that plays are difficult...
or are just for the rich.
People think like that for opera.
- People speak in Italian, so you can't understand. - Right.
But we watch plays very often.
The market volume of plays of Broadway in New York alone...
is over 1,100 million dollars.
- Annually? - Yes, in New York alone.
It starts from there and moves to other cities like Chicago and L.A.
Everyone can watch it. People think everyone can enjoy plays.
I'm jealous of the market volume.
People watch it a lot in Italy.
- Plays? - It's almost like...
people watching movies in Korea.
There are many people who go to watch plays.
I think that's because there are many theaters.
There are theaters in almost every village.
There are very famous theaters, too.
Like Teatro alla Scala in Milan and Teatro La Fenice in Venice.
I think people really watch lots of plays.
The season starts in September.
Every theater has an art director.
The director decide all the plays that will be played throughout the year.
Many people buy tickets.
I used to work in a theater for two years myself.
It's very active.
I think we will be talking about plays a lot today.
Each country has a signature cultural content.
- There is Peking Opera in China. - Right.
Peking Opera is a globally famous performance...
that can represent China.
Each region has schools for Peking Opera.
It's a famous traditional cultural content.
Isn't that for older people?
- Young people don't watch it. - We don't really understand it.
- You don't understand? - I was curious about that.
I went to watch it with my grandfather when I was little,
- but I didn't understand a thing. - Does your grandfather understand?
- Did your grandfather understand it? - Yes, he did.
After watching it, I was mumbling to myself for days.
I don't understand it.
They are speaking in Chinese, right?
I don't think so.
- That's shocking. - How does your grandfather understand?
I think he learned that when he was young.
If Xinlin and I go to watch the play together,
- we both won't understand. - It'd be the same.
- It's really the same. - Maybe they aren't talking.
The most famous one in Italy is opera.
It's very popular. Everyone in the world knows about it.
I actually get embarrassed sometimes.
Korean people know about them better than I do.
- Right. - I watched lots of opera, too.
Some of them are very difficult to watch.
You need basic knowledge...
- to understand. - That's right.
I watched the French opera, "Carmen", in Korea.
But it's hard to understand.
- Was it in Korean? - It was in French.
- Was it in French? - It was still...
- Why was it hard? - Was the pronunciation weird?
The pronunciation is weird and they speak fast.
So, I read the Korean subtitles.
(I see!)
You were watching a French opera, but you were reading Korean subtitles.
"The Last Empress"...
- was very popular in Korea. - Yes.
So we played in the US. They said,
"It's good, but it needs to be played in English."
"It needs to be played in English to become a global play."
Song Seung-hwan was the producer.
He came to Korea and made the play in English.
He spent years to make it in English and went to Broadway.
The person in Broadway said, "It'd be better in Korean."
- How can you say "I'm the Mother of Chosun" in English? - Right.
You couldn't express the culture. You felt that, too.
- That's right. - I think changing the language changes the play.
- Right. - If you perform Pansori in Italian...
(If you perform Pansori in Italian...)
Do you want to give it a try?
- Pansori? - Do, "Come here let me give you a piggyback."
- Pansori? - Yes.
(It sounds very awkward.)
(Oh yes!)
(Culture can only be expressed in its own language.)
Mexico has Voladores.
It means "Bird Men".
It means "Flying Men".
Five men climb a pole 30m long.
One man plays the instrument in the middle.
The other four tie themselves and lean back.
Then they spin until they come down.
It was listed as an Intangible Cultural Heritage by UNESCO in 2009.
It's very popular in Mexico these days.
Now they do it in all regions.
In India,
Bollywood is the most influential one.
They make musicals that are like movies.
People call them Masala Movies.
- Masala is a spice used for cooking. - Right.
So we have movies made by mixing many emotions like masala.
Even now, people throw coins and get up to dance...
when their favorite music comes out.
People become happy with that.
- Why do they throw coins? - Because they're happy.
- They just throw coins in happiness. - They should give it to the actors.
(Everyone is happy in Bollywood movies.)
Japan is famous for animation and console games.
In the case of animation,
during the closing event of Rio Olympics,
they showed Tokyo 2020 Olympics promotion video.
There were Doraemon and Super Mario.
- Right. - Hello Kitty was there, too.
We are proud of it.
- France is also... - That's right.
Comics are popular cultural contents in France.
You all know the movie...
"Snowpiercer", right?
It was originally a French comic book.
Isn't it Japanese?
- It's French. - Is it?
Older people read comic books...
as well as young people.
(Various people enjoy comics in France.)
What is Korea's signature cultural content?
You must all know it, but I think it's drama and K-pop.
- That's right. - It's the center of Hallyu.
- Dramas are doing miraculous things. - That's right.
- In Korea. - Yes.
There was even something like this.
We shot the drama until 6pm,
and it was aired at 9pm.
There was even a case when the music wasn't recorded properly.
Kim Hyeong-seok took a keyboard to the studio...
- Really? - Really?
A live performance?
- He played it in the background. - It'd sound so vivid.
Right. If he made a mistake, it would've been a big problem.
- Right. - They air twice a week.
- I was amazed. - It's once a week in Japan, right?
Yes, it's once a week. How do they do it?
- That's right. - This is how.
(This is how they do it.)
Let's talk about each country's...
masters in cultural contents.
- Broadway? - There are many famous figures in Broadway.
This person is a British person.
Andrew Lloyd Webber. He made many famous Broadway shows.
He made "Cats", "Phantom of the Opera",
- and "Evita". - "Phantom of the Opera"?
People know most of his shows.
- He's a very popular person. - We also...
have a very popular person named Ennio Morricone.
- I really like his music. - He is...
the master of movie music.
- He visited Korea, too. - Right.
During his life, he composed original sound tracks...
of over 500 movies.
He composed the music for almost all famous Hollywood movies.
Switzerland has Charlie Chaplin.
- Charlie Chaplin? He isn't from Switzerland. - Really?
Listen to me.
Let's say he's not.
As you know, Charlie Chaplin is a very famous actor.
He was also a well-acknowledged movie director.
You are right. He is American, not Swiss.
- No, he's British. - Is he British?
But he went to the US from the UK.
He isn't from Switzerland.
Once, he visited Europe...
and promoted the movie he made.
The US government considered him to be a communist...
- and forbade him from returning. - I see.
So, Chaplin said he will live in Switzerland.
He lived in Switzerland for 25 years until his death.
- So, he just lived in Switzerland. - Yes.
- He lived in Switzerland for a long time. - He retired there.
There is a Charlie Chaplin museum...
and statue in Switzerland.
Since the US refused Charlie Chaplin...
and Switzerland accepted him, you can say he is Swiss.
Don't you like Chaplin?
- I heard I look similar to him. - Right.
- Really. - You'll look similar with a mustache.
- Your height... - Be quiet.
Charlie Chaplin is very handsome.
(Is he praising himself?)
- He doesn't look funny. - Right.
So, I'll stop here.
Jae-hyun, who do you think is a master artist?
He is very well-recognized abroad, but not in Korea.
He's not recognized at all. In Italy,
he is especially highly acknowledged. It's Kim Ki-duk.
There are people who like him and those who dislike him in Korea.
There are people who criticize him very heavily.
In Venice Film Festival of Italy,
there is the Golden Lion Award.
It's awarded by teenagers who are studying film-making.
That's meaningful.
- But he received it twice. - Amazing.
I was really surprised.
The way those teenagers view movies...
is very different.
Koreans block out what doesn't suit their taste.
"No, I hate that." This is what people do.
It happens a lot in China, too.
Many movies don't pass the screening,
- but many indie movies were recognized abroad. - Right.
We can say that movies are common cultural assets across many countries.
There must be famous film festivals in your countries.
Please tell us.
Amongst the three international film festivals,
- France has the most famous festival. - Cannes Film Festival.
It's held every May in Cannes.
It's a film festival I like.
It's because the way they choose the movies.
I think they choose well.
What's the reason that makes it the most famous one?
(The attack of Berlin Film Festival?)
- Are you going to talk about Berlin Film Festival? - Right.
He might be trying to pick a fight.
- It's one of the two. - You can't compare the two.
Why not?
Berlin International Film Festival...
has the largest number of people attending it.
- It was started in 1951 to wish for the unification. - Right.
Many famous directors and actors took part.
But in Cannes Film Festival,
there are indie movies and very famous stars.
- We have them, too. - No, it's because...
- What do you have? - The weather is nice and...
They mentioned the three international film festivals.
Italy has Venice Film Festival.
- These are the three. - Cannes, Berlin, and Venice.
Venice Film Festival is the oldest. It started in 1932.
It takes place from early August to late September.
There is an island named Lido in Venice.
Ordinary people can't enter the island during the time.
It's because famous people like Hollywood actors...
- enter the island by boats. - Do you need a boat to get there?
If you're not from the press, it's really hard to get inside.
What's good is that they set up...
small theaters where people can watch movies...
all over Venice.
- Didn't you win an award there? - Right.
I was invited to all three film festivals.
(He's been to all three film festivals.)
You were invited to all three film festivals.
Cannes and Venice are coastal cities.
It's the same with Busan Film Festival.
- It's great. - They are fitting for a festival.
Berlin Festival is a bit difficult for ordinary people to attend.
It's because of the weather. It's cold.
- It's held in January or February. - You said it has the most people attending.
Still, most number of people attend it on average.
So, I find it a bit strange that it's the most attended film festival.
- There are news articles. - We will check.
(Berlinale is the most visited international film festival.)
They can do it in the summer instead of winter.
Why are you telling me that?
He's not the director of the festival.
(I just said it.)
- How was it? - There is a reason why I felt Berlin is so cold.
I went to Berlin for "Bad Guy".
They have this newspaper called "Daily" for the festival.
It said, "Cho Jae-hyun..."
"is the prominent nominee for the Best Actor Award."
That's what it said on the newspaper. I saw that.
We were originally going to be there for 3 nights and 4 days.
We were going to return about half-way through the festival after the awards.
I waited until the end.
I waited until the closing.
It was because I heard...
that they call the recipients a day before...
to tell them not to leave. I couldn't leave before that.
So, in case I get the call,
I didn't go anywhere and stayed in my room on the day before.
- You were waiting for the call. - It must've been cold.
No, it wasn't cold that day.
I didn't go anywhere. I even checked to see if the phone is working.
I didn't get the call.
(Berlin felt colder because of it.)
- There are 4 famous international film festivals. - What's the 4th one?
- Toronto International Film Festival in Canada. - Toronto?
I need to think about that.
Toronto Film Festival is where you can be the first one to watch...
new movies in North America.
The most prestigious film festival in Switzerland...
- is one of the top 6 international film festivals. - Did you say 6?
- Hold on. - How far are we going?
- Let's listen to this. - Let's go to the 15th.
We should listen before judging.
- It's Locarno International Film Festival. - That one is okay. He's right.
I've never heard of the top six film festivals in my life.
- Didn't you just make it up? - Even if he made it up, I'd accept it.
- You would? - Why?
Locarno Film Festival is the one that movie directors want to attend.
It has a long history, too. The movies that are shown there...
are made by very good directors.
- There was a movie named "Tunnel" recently. - Yes.
It was invited to Piazza Grande for the first time.
There is a good film festival in Asia, too.
- Busan Film Festival. - There is Shangai International Film Festival in China.
It started in 1993.
It's one of the best Asian Film Festivals along with Tokyo Film Festival.
Let's make it Top Three Asian Film Festivals.
Tokyo and Shanghai Film Festivals started before Busan Film Festival.
I was so jealous.
I wished Korea would have a film festival like those, and Busan Film Festival began.
- It grew fast in a short time. - It became the famous Asian film festival.
- That's right. - Does anybody disagree?
- Let's accept what is true. - In the case of Mexico,
there is a porn film festival.
- Porn film festival? - That's right.
You can watch adult movies there.
You can personally meet the actors and say hello.
- You can share greetings? - Yes, you can.
You can take pictures with them. There are many shops around it.
You can buy toys for adults there, too.
- Amazing. - If you want to become an actor,
they have rooms for auditions.
- An audition? - It's true.
Christian, did you audition?
You know it too well. I think you've been there.
The audition is known to be very hard.
- What do they look for? - Have you been there?
(Commotion rises.)
They must get naked. I don't know.
I'll look at the picture before the audition.
(Laughing)
What do you think they will look for?
Actually, I think award programs...
are more important to Americans than film festivals.
Amongst many award programs in the US,
the Academy Awards is very important.
It's an award people who want to be recognized have to win.
Many Hollywood movies acknowledge the Academy Awards.
I think there must be a prestigious film festival you can think of.
What do you think of the Academy Awards?
Let's split between those who are for Academy Awards and those against them.
- Does the Academy have authority? - It's been a controversy lately.
One, two, three.
(Does it have the authority of the sovereign?)
- Quite many agreed. - China...
As expected, Aurélien hasn't raised his hand.
It has no authority at all.
- It's because... - Really?
It's because at the Academy Awards,
only commercial films usually get awards.
- They also have foreign film category. - But out of US films,
there are many interesting films but those don't get the awards.
- That's true. - That's what I've analyzed.
But out of French films that you like, there are films...
that didn't win a Cannes Award. It's just difference of preference.
As I said, it does have to do with preference.
I just think these film festivals each have a different role.
Because its usual members are Hollywood actors,
the Academy tends to recognize Hollywood actors.
But if the Academy has that authority,
it must create that kind of system.
They should recognize movies around the world instead of ignoring them.
That's why I wanted to say this.
I think film festivals and awards play two different roles.
- Right! - Film festivals are where independent films are promoted.
If you ask Americans about film festivals,
they will all talk about Cannes. I'm sorry about Berlin and Venice.
Cannes Film Festival is famous.
But lately in our country...
even if their film wasn't nominated, if they're invited,
they dress in something nice and just go.
They're going to promote their film. Their film wasn't nominated.
- People just get invited. - How is that a film festival?
- Then do you think the Academy Awards have authority? - Yes.
I heard it's hard to attend if you weren't nominated.
I think that's what makes a good film awards ceremony.
- Cannes is just... - What's for certain is that the Oscars have a huge impact.
You'd say this director won this many Oscars.
Your view changes according to how many Oscars the movie won.
When people learn a film won 8 or 10 Oscars,
- it'll be really successful. - It'll get a lot of support.
What about Mexico?
Are you asking about the awards ceremony?
- I'm asking about the Academy Awards. - Oh, the Academy...
Well... I'm sorry.
I had a lot of thoughts about this before, but now...
Were you thinking about the porn film festival all this time?
You were way too deep in thought.
- I wanted to tell Mark... - Come out of that audition booth now.
Come on.
(They work so well together when they're teasing someone.)
I've been in that room all this time, too.
When you evaluate art,
- it's impossible to always be in agreement. - It's true, but...
when you think about it, Academy Awards...
have never been surprising. They always award the most obvious choices.
But this is what I think.
I can watch a lot of American movies from Sundance Film Festival.
For each film festival,
there's a different feeling to it.
They're different and also have their own colors.
I think the best way is to watch all of them.
Sundance Film Festival was created...
precisely to attack Hollywood movies.
Because everything is so lopsided to the Academy Awards,
they wanted to make independent films on a free range of topics.
It was created by an actor. He's Robert Redford.
There are awards ceremonies with authority, but there are also funny ones.
There are many strange ones. What are some strange ceremonies at each country?
In France, there's an awards ceremony titled Gérard Du Cinéma.
It gives awards to the worst films and actors.
The trophy is also a concrete block painted gold.
- They give a concrete block as an award? - Yes, they do.
- Is it not too heavy? - The categories...
and the award names change every year.
- How? - They always make the names funny.
For example, "During the film,"
"the audience got to have enough rest."
So, it means the audience slept.
The 2nd one is, "I thought this actor died in 1985,"
"but he's still acting."
It means that for the past 20 years the actor was in films that flopped.
- So they thought he was dead? - Yes, they thought he was dead.
Why do even film festivals make fun of people in France?
The third one is, "To make people think this is a US film,"
"they gave this French film an English title."
Doesn't that mean the French disparage US films?
- There are awards like this. - The award names are unique.
In China, there is the Golden Broom Film Festival.
- It's called Golden Broom Film Festival? - In China, brooms mean...
to gather blessings and throw them out.
It has a very bad meaning. So everyone in the country votes...
- for actors who acted the worst that year. - It's for terrible acting.
There's a pretty actress named Yang Mi in our country.
She's always voted number one for terrible acting.
- Did she talk on stage after receiving the award? - She didn't go to receive it,
but her fans always wear her mask and go to the ceremony.
In Mexico, there's an awards ceremony for telenovelas.
We call our dramas telenovelas.
At the ceremony, they award telenovelas that...
killed a character in the most shocking way. The highlight scenes are shown.
If you watch the Oscars,
a voice actor with a very cool voice introduces films, right?
"A character was exercising but she suddenly appeared."
"She killed her by pressing on her with the weight lift."
"Killed by pressing"?
"She pushed the car to the edge of the cliff and killed him."
"She killed her by drowning her in water."
Then these words follow.
"And the winner is..." They do all that.
If a ceremony doesn't have authority, I think casually having fun like that is good.
There are festivals that are not only for arts and culture but about the region.
At these, to bring fame to their region or village, many attempt a Guinness Record.
Is there a country among you that succeeded in making a Guinness Record?
What is the reason for trying to make a Guinness Record?
You can just make it about fun.
- As expected, he's cynical. - "We made the biggest pizza ever!"
Aurélien, let's live life with some fun.
It's just for fun.
- Why ask questions? - Does France not have any Guinness Records?
- We do, but not many. - Is he just being jealous then?
- That's childish. - France is so not romantic.
I think you get a monetary award.
A meaningful Guinness Record for Pakistan was when...
the most number of people gathered in one place...
- and created the national flag. - National flag?
- Wow, that's cool. - Amazing.
- How many people? - This is a bit like North Korea's mass game.
What? Stop criticizing people!
My goodness!
He can get a Guinness Record for never once giving a compliment.
There were 29,060 people.
Right after that, 50,000 people gathered in India and did it.
It must feel meaningless for Pakistan.
- That's double the number. - They just copied Pakistan.
See? It's childish.
(Look at that! It's childish.)
Aurélien said it's childish.
(The French guy is being cynical.)
China has a greater population than those two countries.
It's not that shocking for us to make Guinness Records.
For example, Jackie Chan...
- made a Guinness Record for being in so many action films. - Right.
Also, a singer named Wang Fei's...
- number of solo albums sold was the highest in history. - Really?
China is also the country with the most hospitals in the world.
- That's not through efforts though. - They just have the most number of things.
- These just existed... - Hospitals aren't there naturally. They were built.
That's because the population is huge.
Which country has the most bikes? China or India?
India has more bikes than China. We're number one in the world.
When it comes to Guinness Records, no one can beat Mexico.
Mexicans have once gathered together...
and cursed together. We cursed...
and made a Guinness Record.
There was a politician that people really disliked.
On the last day of his office, they gathered and told him to bug off.
They shouted together at once. Because they were so loud,
it was recorded to be over 122dB.
That's the same level of decibels as an airplane when it begins to take off.
- Wow! - Wow.
When people chase after setting records in sales, they could get greedy...
and ruin the meaning of festivals.
It costs a lot to hold festivals, right? Regional festivals are...
necessary for regional development.
The opposite would be that they are often a waste of money.
If you think these are necessary, raise your hand. 1, 2, 3!
(Are costly regional festivals necessary?)
Those who said these are not necessary are Wang Xinlin,
Alex...
Aurélien is still just cynical.
- He says they're not necessary. - He's no fun.
Are EDM festivals unnecessary?
That's different. This is about regional festivals.
- EDM regional festivals! - Okay! Sounds good.
- See? It's okay when it's things he likes. - I like festivals that are about art.
- But festivals about tulips? - If it's something he likes, he calls it art.
- I can't understand that. - They are beautiful.
That's right.
There are so many people who go to see that.
- Japan gets benefits from it so much. - There's a tulip festival in my hometown.
- There's a tulip festival? - Yes.
Wait. You don't need to hold a festival.
If there are tulips in the city, people can just promote that there are.
- That's what a festival is. - No, festival is within a certain time period.
They must hold all these events within a certain time period.
You also have to pay money. You can just tell them to come to Nagasaki.
Tell people you have tulips and other things. You just have to advertise like that.
But more people come if there's a festival.
- Festivals are fun. - Exactly! They make people so happy.
But it doesn't produce a lot of money.
What do you think about the festival of throwing tomatoes?
- Tomatoes? - You mean in Spain.
- What do you think about the festival of throwing tomatoes? - Well, this one...
- Is it useless? - sounds like it'd be fun.
(What is your standard then?)
- They just throw tomatoes. - He just says no if it's not what he likes.
- Gosh. - He has a very subjective standard.
- He is so subjective! - Come on, Aurélien.
(Worn out)
Of course festivals have impact. During 1988 Seoul Olympics,
there was a lot of money invested.
- We're talking about regional festivals. - But look.
When we look at the world, Seoul is also a region.
It's about Olympics...
Seoul Olympics brought worldwide fame to Seoul.
It created a good image of Seoul in people's minds.
Seoul also got a lot of benefits from tourism.
So it costs a lot during that short time,
but you earn a lot of money in the long-run.
There was the worst Olympics in history. It was the Montreal Olympics.
In 1976,
Olympics was held in Montreal.
But it cost almost eight times what they expected.
They paid off the debt for 40 years.
It also flopped.
If that festival becomes famous,
- even people abroad would come for it. - Right.
Through them, money that the government invested...
will come back to the citizens first.
For example, you know Cancún?
A lot of Americans go there for spring break.
Because they discovered the charm of the place when they were young,
they keep visiting even when it's not spring break.
In my personal experience,
people do come when they learn there's a festival...
through advertisements. But if the environment is not good,
people may think the advertisement was lying.
That's why I think if they have that money,
they should use it for improving the environment.
Then they should find a way to make people visit their city naturally.
- You mean rather than with advertisements? - Yes.
I don't think we should just talk about money.
I came from a regional place, right? When there are festivals,
they prepare for the whole year. Everyone in the city works together.
This brings energy into people.
In that way, festivals are great.
- That's why I think it's essential. - It brings vigor to the region.
If it's a festival to keep traditions, they're great no matter what.
It's meaningful and creates fond memories for people.
I also think it's not best to have so many festivals everywhere.
There's also this saying, "In Rome,"
"bread and circus are what the people need."
For a nation to run well, people must be fed...
and entertained.
Festivals have existed since back in the past. When there were no theaters...
and other entertainment venues,
people from small villages could go to big cities...
for festivals. They didn't get to go to big cities all the time.
That's how they'd also create a festival for their own region.
They'd spend a fun time together. I think festivals are important.
To be honest, there are those that overdo it...
as you said.
There are festivals held just for promotion.
- I think festivals should involve internal values. - Right.
- To not feel shame, we must prepare festivals with internal values. - Right.
Out of Korean festivals you've been to,
were there any memorable ones?
- There was one that shocked me. - It shocked you?
Out of Korean festivals you've been to,
- were there any memorable ones? - There was one that shocked me.
- I went to the Shrimps Festival because of my friend. - It was shocking?
- I like eating shrimps, - Why are you about to cry?
- These weren't just shrimps. - so I went.
There was a pot. They put salt inside,
and then put in live shrimps.
Suddenly, the shrimps tried to escape so the pot kept shaking.
But as time passed by, it shook less...
- and less. - You watched them die.
- You were shocked? - I watched them try to escape.
- How can I... - They don't run away later on though.
- Did you eat them or not? - I ate them.
- You ate fresh shrimps. - It was also fun.
(It began with shock but ended with fresh food.)
I went to this festival almost every year.
It's the Chuncheon Mime Festival.
It's usually held in May.
There's an island there. They held the last day of the festival there.
They would mime all night.
They would also have a campfire, and people would drink soju. It was great.
- Also, the city... - Did they even drink soju through miming?
(I should also try it.)
I feel like I should say this because he mentioned miming.
Japan has a festival called Solo Sumo Festival.
A person would fight against a divine being.
- It's fight with a divine being? - Yes. They fight three times.
It's to predict the next year's harvest.
- Next year's harvest? - Yes. So, if the person loses,
they say the divine being will do everything...
and that the next year will be a year of good harvest.
He must lose honestly though. If he fakes it, the divine being would get mad.
The divine being might say, "Are you looking down on me?"
- He must lose by 2 to 1. - Really?
So he'd be grunting and then...
(Oh, divine being!)
- That sounds fun. - Boryung Mud Festival...
- was really amazing. - Yes, it is.
- A ton of foreign people go there. - In particular, men who looked really big...
would walk around with women on their shoulders.
I've only seen it in movies but saw it there for the first time. I was awed.
They must also hold tournaments, right?
- Yes, they do and... - I heard a lot of people there are drunk.
- Drunk people? - Yes.
You really just point out only the bad things.
No, I wasn't criticizing.
- Drunk people could have fun, of course. - Oh, that's what you meant?
I can't say anything because I'm scared of Aurélien.
- Have you been to the Stone Age Festival? - Stone Age?
The reason why the festival began is so funny.
There were a lot of American soldiers because it's near Yeoncheon.
A man was having a date with his girlfriend. He tripped over a rock.
That rock turned out to be a hand-axe from the Stone Age.
- This isn't a middle-aged man joke, right? - No.
That axe had tripped US over.
(Actually, he had discovered it while trying to boil coffee.)
When the historians came and looked, they realized this is a huge discovery.
The Stone Age Festival at Yeoncheon is one of world's top three festivals.
- Right, I saw a picture. - World's top three?
- Something was erected with rocks. - You really know a lot.
- I saw it in a picture, but it must be real. - There's an axe like this.
If it's from the Stone Age, it's really old.
It's all because US tripped over it.
(Laughing)
This was Cho Jae-hyun's topic that he brought to Non Summit Meeting.
"People watch lots of television shows or movies,"
"but they don't watch plays often, which makes me sad. Am I abnormal?"
Since you said people seem to have a hard time with plays,
to shatter that prejudice,
how about Jae-hyun himself act out a highlight scene...
- of the play? - If you do, I'll tell you if the play seems hard or not.
(Anticipating)
If you want to see it, come and see the play.
Just come and see.
- Well, today... - Yes?
There are 10 of you, right?
- There are 11 of them. - With me, there are 12, right?
- You left out Aurélien, didn't you? - With you,
- there are 15 in total. - Yes.
Today, I saw that almost everyone...
- said what they really wanted to say. - Yes.
I got to learn many new things about...
each country's performances. I think this was really helpful.
- Thank you. - Thank you.
(Thank you.)
We hope the play you're acting in becomes even more popular.
I would now like to adjourn our Non Summit Meeting.
Until the day we all become normal...
(After the play is over)
Please watch how his cheeks tremble.
(I stay alone in my seat)
He says he stayed alone in his seat.
Hurry up and hit the gavel.
We will now adjourn.
(We will now adjourn.)
It says Volkswagen also plans to recall its automobiles in Korea.
A smart phone had exploded, and even disinfectant was found in toothpaste.
Then does the cellphone company have to completely leave?
This will make them look down on the country.
If you make that company leave, jobs will disappear.
What did they do about these employees?
The country's government also has to take responsibility.
- What do you think about the sushi market? - I think it must be kicked out.
(It's a heated discussion by the representatives about the recall incident.)
- She is Kim Jung-eun. - Hello.
Alex thought dictator Kim Jung-eun was coming.
I must have eaten thousands of meals more than him, so he should change his name.
(She is bold.)
For 16 years, I've been doing volunteer work for single mom families.
I think there are a lot of families that are prejudiced against. Am I abnormal?
They usually throw the baby away and leave.
They buried the baby into the ground.
For Kopinos, the father runs away a lot of times.
Many single mothers are mentally...
and physically having hard times against so many prejudices.
Shouldn't they be supported and helped to grow?
(Non Summit Meeting)
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